When my daughter was around 18 months old she became obsessed with the book, There was an Old Woman Who Swallowed a Fly. I had never put much thought into the book or its theme but after reading it 30 times a day for several weeks I began to. And I didn’t like it. What bothered me more than the actual contents of the book (although those are disturbing) was the fact that it bothered me at all. Parents, caregivers and educators all over the world had been reading this book to children for the better part of a decade and had probably even had a good time doing it. But here I was, hiding the book beneath a couch cushion in hopes that my daughter would lose interest. When that didn’t work, it went beneath the actual couch and then finally to the Goodwill. What was my problem? For one thing, there are exactly zero elderly people who are a regular part of my daughter’s life. I really didn’t think that this madwoman should be her first introduction into their world- apparently a world where eating insects, house pets and farm animals is par for the course. And quite frankly, I didn’t want to start answering questions about death.
Well, I had forgotten all about this incident until this week when we checked out a new batch of books from the library. I was very pleased to see that one of the books that my daughter chose was Henny Penny (also known as Chicken Little), the story of the hen who believes the sky is falling and sets off with a gang of pals to tell the king about it. Ah, an old classic from my youth! Now we’re talkin’! Dora who? The Wiggles what? Diego where? We got home and settled in to read our new books and all was going swimmingly until we got to page 27. Before I knew what hit me, I had read the following:
“From that day to this Turkey Lurkey, Goosey Loosey, Duckey Lucky, Cocky Locky, and Henny Penny have never been seen again. And the King has never been told the sky is falling. But… Foxy Loxy and Mrs. Foxy Loxy and their seven little foxes still remember the fine feast they had that day.”
Um, that is NOT the Henny Penny I remember from my youth. I looked at my daughter, whose mouth was agape, and tried to change the subject: “Hey! Let’s read Olivia!” “Why did the foxes eat all of those birdies?” “I don’t think they did, Honey. Do you want to read another book?” “No, I think they did…” Damn!
It’s not that I want to shield her from the world forever. But she’s only 3. She has a whole lifetime of cruel discoveries ahead of her. I’d like for reading time to be fun, relaxing and educational. It doesn’t have to be all fairies and teddy bears, but for now I’d prefer that none of the main characters consume one another during the course of the book. And that goes for both fowl-eating foxes and equine-eating grandmothers.

By the way, I see that Banned Books Week is coming up next month. I would like to nominate Henny Penny and There Was an Old Woman Who Swallowed a Fly. Oh, that’s not what Banned Books Week is all about? Foiled again…




I, too, seem to have blocked out the darker themes of these books!
…Oh, and even at 33, my mother still calls me Turkey Lurkey.
Well, if she starts calling herself Foxy Loxy, run like HELL.
Great post! I agree with you. Sometimes I look at these kids books and think….I can’t believe they are letting kids read them, or that WE are reading to them!!
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I don’t have kids, but I have a nephew and it’s funny. I remember thinking those stories were just silly when I was little. But now I’m hyper sensitive to this stuff when I’m reading stories to the little guy. I wonder why my mother wasn’t similarly inclined to a bit of censorship.
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I always scan the books before we check them out. I agree that there are some books we used to read when we were younger that are definitely not acceptable.
Great post! My daughter loves Snow White and she’ll pretend she is “dead” like Snow White. I don’t know what to do about this? I tell her saying she is dead isn’t a nice thing to say. Unfortunately, I’m a children’s librarian so my love for children’s literature wins out. She’s three too and so smart. Nothing gets past her! Congrats on your FB at SITS!
I guess it would be a good idea for you to read the books first these days. NUBS is a very good non-fiction book about a dog and a marine. Short with pictures, but a great story. Sad in the middle, but happy ending.
I like the Zak File books by Dale Greenberg–funny! They may be too advanced though for a 3 yr. old. More for ages 6-10.
My disturbed child would wonder if they were tasty!!
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Coming in from SITS. I was forced by malevolent forces to TEACH the book about the lady who swallowed a fly to kindergarten miscreants who were in danger of failing kindergarten. I had several classes of different kids all week, and I got to hate that book with a vengeance. My solution? Foist the book and it’s onerous reading on my assistant! It worked and my sanity was intact. It’s not a bad book, but reading it 20 times a week can and does cause mental instability in adults. It’s a fact. Now… I can buy the Spanish version for my kiddies here. NOT!
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This post made me laugh, we had a similar experience with Grimms Fairy Tales. Not one of us realized just how awful the original non-Disney versions were until my Brother received the book as a child. My Mom read one and then stuffed it at the back of her closet. It’s now a running joke that we have to be nice or she’ll give it to our kids as a present.
HA! That reminds me of reading the original Grims Fairy tales. SCARY stuff!! And what about that song, “I’m bringing home a baby bumble bee” in my day you squished it, licked it, vomited it. GROSS!!
LOL!
Stopping by this post for your SITS day! It is funny how things have changed – it makes me wonder, though, because you hear so much about how our children are desensitized because of the tv and video games they play. Why wasn’t our generation desensitized by books like Henny Penny, The Three Little Pigs (because the wolf eats the first 2 in the original) and the such?
My kids LOVE Little Bear on Noggin…oh, wait, Nick Jr. I usually feel pretty good about letting them watch Little Bear…it makes me feel warm and fuzzy because it is oddly wholesome. The other day, however, they were having a funeral for Lucy (Emily’s doll) because she had died. I didn’t really say anything to my kids about it – I figured they would ask if they had questions and I would address it then. I did catch them having a funeral for their stuffed animal (Chugga Bear) before bed…It gave me a weird turning feeling in my stomach. Oh well – enough rambling! Great post!
Stopping by from SITS. I sure got a good laugh out of this. It is totally true. Little Red Riding Hood? Now that’s one violent story. LOL!
I thought I was the only one who seemed disturbed by some of the children’s books – and ended up hiding them from the Princess Nagger. So nice to know I’m not alone!
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Random thought: Perhaps, perhaps, the older classics were to teach the children the world was a rough place outside their doors. Now, we need to shield our children from the horrors that can come right into our homes (TV, PC, or unsafe neighborhoods…). Maybe it’s a good time to use these stories as parables for what could or might happen in real life through analogy. Just thinkin’ “out loud”.
Classic children’s books are kinda evil. Somebody always dies in them. I am not a fan of Snow White or pinocchio. Those stories are a little disturbing to me. Am I going way over board?!
Have you heard about this HORRIFYING child’s party idea? When did child’s education go so horribly HORRIBLY wrong?
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/821591-evil-clown-hired-for-stalking-threats-and-a-pie-in-the-face
Children’s stories are often dark. Even Superman and Batman had sad beginnings!
Stopping by from SITS! If you think that that is bad, please don’t read her any of the original Grimm’s fairy tales. In Cinderella, the stepsisters cut off their toes to try to make the glass slipper fit. Gross! Also, Hansel and Gretel? The witch is planning to cook up, a la Rachel Ray, a 30 minute meal of the kids. Hello? Nightmares!
Thanks for the laughs! I am having fun reading through you posts!:)
I know…what is up with those books? I’ve had a few of those moments myself…
it’s funny how we block out the nasty aspects of the stories of our youth…this is one reason I’m sticking to the “disneyfied” versions of the fairy tales for now. No point traumatizing my kids yet with the Hans Christian Anderson versions
Stopping by from SITS. I love this entry. I think, with a lot of “classic” children’s books you realize, as an adult, that they’re NOT kid friendly. Hansel and Gretel? I don’t even want to get INTO that. Goldilocks? What’s that kid doing in the woods anyhow?
My daughter is three and her favorites is good old Skippyjohn, who does amazing things from the relative safty of his own closet.
yeah, i remember loving big dog, little dog, but i’d totally forgotten that moral crap at the end of it … i’ve since blocked out that moral crap because i’d rather remember fred and ted in their green and red (and no, i don’t remember whose was whose) cars and in their right beds.
pissed me off. wrecked a perfectly good story.
I remember both of these stories from childhood and being completely disturbed by both, though I don’t remember that final line from Henny Penny (which is odd).
In a house full of bibliophiles, my two year old also loves books. I’m not sure that we do enough to shield her from some of the odder fairy tales. I’m sure that Hubby would say “it’s a classic!”
Hello! I would have to agree with you! I don’t know how many times that I was read those stories growing up.
One of my favorite books to read to my son was “Guess How Much I Love You” by Sam McBratney, it was one of the sweetest books ever!
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Blessings,
Lucie
Oh I remember singing that song! I sang it to my kids. They think it’s hilarious. But yeah some of our older books are different than we remember. Will our kids remember them the way we did? Or will it stand out as wrong because their books are all fairies and teddy bears. It’s hard to know. I have told my daughters on more than one occasion–being they are such good listeners–that The Little Mermaid is a very tragic story. That she dies in the end. I remember just being crushed by it! Then Disney made their version and it had a much happier ending.
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It was Grimm’s fairy tales that always got to me. Snow White dies at the end? Rapunzel got pregnant out of wedlock? A mouse is cooked alive? YIKES!
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OMG! I can SOOOO identify with this post! Just a few weeks ago we went to the library and my 4-year-old son picked out There Was an Old Woman Who Swallowed a Fly. And even though I’ve known it by heart since I was a child, it never really dawned on me until now how … weirdly disturbing it is. Ick. Same goes for Red Riding Hood, and all kinds of other “classic” children’s tales, really.
Happy, happy SITS day! It’s an awesome experience!
ha! This reminds me of our house….we listen to a LOT of nursery rhyme songs…some of them are terrible!
Remember the song “Clemintine”?
basically, a man is singing about his long lost love Clemintine, who died, and he is sad until…
“then i kissed her/little sister/and forgot/my Clemintine”
WTF???
Geez…that is really dark for a kids book. I never really thought about it before. I don’t have kids so I don’t read these books on a regular basis. But my best friend doens’t let her son watch Disney movies for the same reason. Someone dies in every one.
I had to rethink the “cartoons I grew up with are okay for my kids”… because really they AREN’T!! I mean, come on, the coyote gets smashed almost EVERY episode. And that Waskly Wabbit is always almost getting shot by Elmer Fudd… I mean, seriously, did my mom NEVER stop to watch these thing with us??
So… great, now I have to worry about books too?? *hands thrown up in disgust*
Thanks for the laugh!
It is so funny how much attention you start paying to the “message” when you become a parent!